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Talk:On Screen Keyboard

2010-04-24T18:08:21Z

Clebio: request for development updates

Discuss bugs, implementation issues, installation issues and feature requests here:

Related to the last bullet in the issues list (text boxes getting moved behind keyboard because notifications don't resize the keyboard) - when a notification pops up, it covers the bottom row of keys on the keyboard (spacebar, shift, etc.), and they do not get re-drawn until you close and reopen the keyboard.
--[[User:Swankgd|Swankgd]] 07:09, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Can someone post instructions on how to get this working on the emulator? I'm trying to change the language of the keyboard for someone else and I don't have a Pre. Also I'm assuming that the section that starts around line 1252 of the add-onscreen-keyboard.patch file is where the outputted characters are set. If I want to change it to output  instead of q, do I change the Keycode, letter or list variables? --[[User:Qurgh|Qurgh]] 16:37, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

== Keyboard doesn't work.. ==

How do I get the keyboard to work. I've tried both the preload and webos? I am confused....

Use preware or webos quick install to install the mod. Open up the messaging app, focus on one of the text fields and double tap on the gesture area, This will bring up in the OnScreen Keyboard in all/(most) text fields. tap the gesture area once to make it go away.

== Request for Development Progess ==
Can whomever is working on this patch post their progress with development? I'd like to contribute, but would like to know what the current status is and what work is being done, so I don't duplicate effort. Or is there a more formal process for submitting changes (CVS or some such)?

Thanks, [[User:Clebio|Clebio]] 18:08, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

Add Ability To Choose Snooze Length

2009-10-17T02:07:06Z

Clebio: ideas

= Introduction =

I am trying to add a integer picker (0 - 59) along with another list picker which will have units of time (minutes, hours, days, weeks) to the notification alert that pops-up for a calendar reminder. However, this is proving to require a lot more skill and knowledge than I have at the moment; but this is an ongoing project I'm working on and I'd greatly welcome any help! I new to everything (HTML, CSS, Javascript, Linux), but I have learned a great amount in the small time since I've rooted my Pre from the community (thanx!).

So far I've only been able to create a simple program that shows a notification banner alert (the kind that pops up from the bottom of the screen, but doesn't interfere with anything) when you push a button. Then I tried to add a simple Integer picker to that banner when it pops up, but that broke what I had working already. Once I'm able to have a working demo that has an integer picker from 0 to 59, along with another picker that has minutes, hours, days, and weeks as options, and a "snooze" button; then I'll start working on integrating my work into the Calendar app and then create a patch. I have taken a quick look at the calendar app and it is a lot more complicated than I can fully understand yet and more complicated than I thought it would be. I hoping some people will want to help or else this will take awhile for me to understand.

= Sandbox =
This should be your starting-point:
http://developer.palm.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1632#DashboardsandNotifications-PopupNotifications

Next, i would look at this: http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Patch_Calendar_Notification_Repeat

Try this from your terminal:
novaterm
cd /usr/palm/applications/com.palm.app.calendar/app/controllers/
less reminder-assistant.js

[[User:Clebio|Clebio]] 02:07, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

= Credits: =

* HebrewzHammer for idea

Add Ability To Choose Snooze Length

2009-10-17T02:06:07Z

Clebio: ideas

= Introduction =

I am trying to add a integer picker (0 - 59) along with another list picker which will have units of time (minutes, hours, days, weeks) to the notification alert that pops-up for a calendar reminder. However, this is proving to require a lot more skill and knowledge than I have at the moment; but this is an ongoing project I'm working on and I'd greatly welcome any help! I new to everything (HTML, CSS, Javascript, Linux), but I have learned a great amount in the small time since I've rooted my Pre from the community (thanx!).

So far I've only been able to create a simple program that shows a notification banner alert (the kind that pops up from the bottom of the screen, but doesn't interfere with anything) when you push a button. Then I tried to add a simple Integer picker to that banner when it pops up, but that broke what I had working already. Once I'm able to have a working demo that has an integer picker from 0 to 59, along with another picker that has minutes, hours, days, and weeks as options, and a "snooze" button; then I'll start working on integrating my work into the Calendar app and then create a patch. I have taken a quick look at the calendar app and it is a lot more complicated than I can fully understand yet and more complicated than I thought it would be. I hoping some people will want to help or else this will take awhile for me to understand.

= Sandbox =
This should be your starting-point:
http://developer.palm.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1632#DashboardsandNotifications-PopupNotifications

Next, i would look at this: http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Patch_Calendar_Notification_Repeat

Try this from your terminal:
novaterm
cd /usr/palm/applications/com.palm.app.calendar/app/controllers/
less reminder-assistant.js

[[User:Clebio|Clebio]] 02:06, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

= Credits: =

* HebrewzHammer for idea

Meetups

2009-08-24T12:51:20Z

Clebio: /* Kansas City */ adding self

People interested in meeting up should plop in their area and name so when we have critical mass it can be organized.

See also [http://predevcamp.org/ predevcamp.org].

== United States ==

=== Arizona ===
==== Phoenix, AZ ====
# EvanDotPro

=== California ===
==== Fresno ====
# A2NY

==== San Diego/Los Angeles ====
# JonVisc
# seigex (Inland Empire)
# hopspitfire

==== San Francisco/Bay Area/SJ ====
Since Palm, Inc. is located in the Bay Area, Palm employees may join us for some tech talk or tips and tricks.

http://www.meetup.com/palm-webos/

# rulethirty (organizer)
# Robi
# jblebrun
# simplyflipflops
# pEEf
# bzhou (eno in IRC, optware manager)

=== Colorado ===
==== Denver ====
# destinal
# rcanzlovar
# raeb

=== Kentucky ===
==== Cincinnati/NKY ====
# xandrake__
# foamcoretrash

=== Massachusetts ===
==== Boston ====
# nebula (MIT campus area)
# [[User:FreeTim|FreeTim]] (MIT campus area - in Kendall Sq.) Please join us in the [http://www.webosboston.org WebOSBOSTON community - We have monthly meetings.]
# djbclark Danny Clark <dclark@pobox.com> http://pobox.com/~dclark (MIT campus area)
# oc80z (MIT,Central Square for drinks)
# beingboston (Newton, Watertown area. Has T pass, can travel)
# trokair (Waltham area, can travel)
# r3compile
# asedeno (MIT)

=== Minnesota ===
==== Minneapolis/St. Paul ====
# xluryan
# helfire

=== Missouri ===
==== Kansas City ====
# xorg (attending [http://kansascity.predevcamp.org/attendees/ KC predev camp] - a couple dozen have signed up and growing)
# [[User:Clebio|Clebio]] 12:51, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

=== Nevada ===
==== Las Vegas: [[wikipedia:DEF CON (convention)|Defcon]] 17 ====
# emkman
# pEEf
# destinal
# tharris-

=== New York ===
==== Albany ====
# JackieRipper

=== Oregon ===
==== Portland Area ====
# rck

=== Texas ===
==== Austin ====
# HattCzech
==== Dallas ====
# HebrewzHammer
# [[user:X1011|X1011]] ([[wikipedia:University of Texas at Dallas|UTD]], attended [http://dallas.predevcamp.org/ preDevCamp])

=== Washington ===
==== Seattle Area ====
# tictac
# BurntSky
# meshuga

=== Wisconsin ===
==== Madison ====
# christianwilcox

Talk:Preware Design

2009-08-19T13:10:07Z

Clebio: /* Features and Suggestions */ adding a feature request

{{box | color = #cdf |
This is a discussion page. Create a new topic with the '+' tab. Sign your comments using the signature button or by typing <code><nowiki>~~~~</nowiki></code>. If your suggestion reaches consensus, you may implement it on the application page.
}}

== Replacing wiki pages? ==

Is this going to replace the application pages in this wiki? I think it should.
—[[user:X1011|X1011]] 22:31, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

This has not been decided yet, but in all odds it eventually will. --[[User:Templarian|Templarian]] 03:18, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

== protection ==
'''Page is now unprotected and moved to the application name space.'''[[User:Rboatright|rboatright]] 04:24, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

why is this page protected? I think we should follow [[wikipedia:WP:NO-PREEMPT]].
—[[user:X1011|X1011]] 22:31, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

Quality control by sysops. --[[User:Templarian|Templarian]] 22:44, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

are you saying that only sysops are capable of quality?

also, it says it's a discussion page. how can it be if it's protected?

—[[user:X1011|X1011]] 07:30, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

I forgot to unprotect the preware page when I moved it -- sorry [[User:Rboatright|rboatright]]

== XML feeds ==

* instead of <firmware>:
<source lang='xml'>
<webOSVersion>
<min>1.0.3</min>
<max>1.1</max>
</webOSVersion>
</source>
* maintainer:
<source lang='xml'>
<maintainer id="42">
<name>John Doe</name>
<email>email@domain.com</email>
</maintainer>
</source>
* should a category have an id? everything else does.
* in the review, you have the type in the message tag, but in the comment, you have it in the messages tag.
* <comment> should be <text> or <body>
* in <comment>, what do you mean by 'split it somewhere'?
* does <code>preware.org/feed/xml/type/</code> have a meaning? if not, we should use:
<source lang='text'>
preware.org/feed/xml/application/23/
preware.org/feed/xml/plugin/23/
</source>

—[[user:X1011|X1011]] 09:27, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

- Agreed with all suggestions in this section, and they are now reflected in the article. --[[User:Templarian|Templarian]] 02:33, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

For "preware.org/feed/xml/application/23/" since it shares id's, couldn't it just be "/xml/23/". --[[user:Templarian|Templarian]]

== GUI Addition: Version# and Changelog ==

Idea: Add a small "Details" or "+" button on the app and plugins pages. It can go at the end of the description, or possibly to the right of the very large "Install/Delete" button. It may not be wanted though. I know we don't want to show version numbers on the app page, but I'd love to have some way to access the version number and changelog from within the Preware app, even if its semi-hidden. I read the results of Rick's papercraft gui study, and agree with a lot of the comments, but I still feel like this is something that would be helpful to have available somewhere in the app, even if it isn't immediately obvious how to get to it (since its not something that is necessarily required by the average user). --[[User:Zinge|Zinge]] 02:29, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Changes reflected in the Preware Application mockup image. --[[User:Templarian|Templarian]] 02:46, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Looks good, but we may want to change the "list" icon to something that look less like "go back to the app list". My suggestions are- are lowercase "i" or the "+" symbol. Any better ideas? --[[User:Zinge|Zinge]] 02:56, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

lowercase i is the correct icon, I changed it to reflect that in the mockup. --[[User:Templarian|Templarian]] 03:11, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

== button resizing ==

For the first screenshot I think it would be best if we made it so that the buttons resize. No scrolling in any form even if there notifications below it. --[[user:Templarian|Templarian]]

== License id ==

Do you think we should put the versions next to all of them to be consistent? --[[User:Templarian|Templarian]] 02:33, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

what is the purpose of having a license id? —[[user:X1011|X1011]] 04:51, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Since the Preware app is listed for Open Source projects it was mentioned it would be nice to have it listed on the information button (which may be moved to a drop down at the right of the top title). Really treating the info screen as the information normal users do not care about seeing immediately. The license id is just a standard id that will never change. --[[User:Templarian|Templarian]] 14:12, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

are you saying the name of a license is likely to change? i doubt that. if you must have a license id, though, just make it a number like all the other ids. —[[user:X1011|X1011]] 04:35, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Yea, probably change that to a number sometime. --[[User:Templarian|Templarian]] 05:29, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

== Features and Suggestions ==

Adding some suggestions... --[[User:Czar|Czar]] 14:16, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
* Remove (or mark) already installed applications in the Available Applications category.

Adding some suggestions... --[[User:Decimation|Decimation]] 15:14, 17 August 2009 (EST)
* Show a progress bar or some sort of notification of the download/installation progress of an app..it would really be nice to have some feedback after clicking install.
* Change the pop up dialog when an app is installed/removed... it's kinda ugly. Maybe show a notification at the bottom? That would be pretty cool.

Adding some suggestions... -- (xorg)
* Option to sort complete app list by newest first (as filecoaster does)
* Descriptions of each app

Adding some suggestions...for way into the future -- (s4mb4)
* a process that would hook into the notification system to notify of available updates.

Adding some suggestions... -- [[User:Tlp|Tlp]] 23:30, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
* Swipe listed applications to delete

Categories for available applications! And thanks for this awesome app! [[User:Clebio|Clebio]] 13:10, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

== Issues 0.5 first public release ==
* Was working fine first several updates over several hours. Now for last day, just get spinning 'Updating' at startup. (xorg)

* seems 0.5.1 corrected that.

* I've updated to 0.5.1 and it ran first time ok. Second time get continuous spinning update. (xorg)

* Reinstalled, now working again - for now. (xorg)

Application talk:Terminal

2009-08-16T20:57:00Z

Clebio: /* Colors Sticking, and Permissions */ reply, solution

== Bugs: Paste? ==
- Can't seem to figure out how to paste something that was copied from another app/msg/web site. The old paste shortcut of "Gesture + V" doesn't work (because its being used for other things). I tried to "Insert" shortcut, but it didn't do anything.
--[[User:Zinge|Zinge]] 08:58, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

== Ansi bugs ==
Scrolling in BX is fixed. Thanks! terminal is a killer app.

Still have a bug when typing a message in IRC that's long enough to require horizontal scrolling. Instead of scrolling it does weird single-char newlines and status bar is lost.

Also when using arrow keys to move around in vim (with TERM=linux and syntax/color on), what seems to be ansi color code artifacts are printed. Arrows do work, but it's unusable due to artifacts. --[[User:T3rmin|T3rmin]] 18:05, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

== New Version Changelog? ==

The newest version from the feed seems to be 0.1.6. Anybody know what changes have been made? --[[User:Zinge|Zinge]] 19:30, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

== Font Size Feature Request ==
Well done! I notice that there are two fonts, normal and small. Would it be possible to add an intermediate font size? The 40 col is to large for seeing much and the 80 col is far to small. Would it be possible to have a ~60col font? --[[user:Dreadchicken|Dreadchicken]]

== Broadcast messages when phone sleeps/wakes ==

Has anyone figured out how to stop the broadcast messages generated on the Terminal when the phone sleeps and wakes? They clobber whatever's on the screen if you happen to turn off the phone while Terminal is open.

Other than this, great app. I'm eternally grateful. :) --[[User:zorinlynx|zorinlynx]]

I'm not sure if this will help, but there is a quilt patch in the gitorious modification for disabling some messages to the log. http://gitorious.org/webos-internals/modifications/blobs/master/luna/quiet-powerd-messages.patch --[[User:Plee3|plee3]] 21:05, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Thank you! This has resolved the issue. --[[User:Zorinlynx|Zorinlynx]] 21:24, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

== Brackets ==
Any way to enter < or > chars? Kinda tough to dump output to a file without.
--[[User:Daemon|Daemon]]

These characters have not been implemented yet, but as a work-around, you can use tee or tee -a.
--[[User:JackieRipper|JackieRipper]]

==Colors Sticking, and Permissions==
Would it be possible to set the foreground color permanently, so that I don't havve to set it each time I log in?

I've also noticed that when I open the application, sometimes it automatically logs me in as root. How can I disable this?

Thanks for your awesome work!! -[[User:Hopspitfire|hopspitfire]] 05:47, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

I think one solution for disabling root access is to go into
/var/usr/palm/applications/org.webosinternals.terminal/app/controllers
and edit '''session-assistant.js'''
Search for the line that reads
this.termplugin.start("root");
and change 'root' to your username.
[[User:Clebio|Clebio]] 20:57, 16 August 2009 (UTC)